Building a loyal podcast community is no small feat but for Zama and Landzy, life isn’t measured by the milestones they’ve reached – but rather the women they had to become to reach them
There’s a certain ease to Zama Marubelela and Landzy Gama when they sit behind a microphone. The conversations on their podcast, Because We Said So (BWSS), feel warm, candid and familiar – less like a polished performance and more like being invited into a conversation between two friends in their 20s.
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That chemistry has helped turn the podcast into a rapidly growing platform where they unpack relationships, careers, friendship, womanhood and the uncertainties of figuring life out. They’ve also interviewed Mzansi’s pop culture elites, such as Nomzamo Mbatha, Amanda du Pont and Nadia Nakai, since their podcast debuted in May 2025.
The most interesting way to understand Zama and Landzy’s journey is through milestones – but not simply the obvious ones, like launching a podcast or reaching a growing audience (100K subscribers and counting), but the quieter personal markers that have shaped the women behind it.
Before the mic
Long before BWSS, there were two girls growing up in very different family dynamics, but with experiences that would ultimately influence the women they became.
“I was a shy girl who just wanted to be liked. That was the biggest thing for me because I’m a people pleaser,” Landzy admits.
Zama’s childhood personality was almost the opposite. “I feel like little Zama was
always a bubbly, funny, outspoken, loud girl,” she says, noting that this is also how her family describes her.
With such different personalities, both Zama and Landzy turned to YouTube for very different reasons but ultimately to express themselves. Find out how these solo explorations led them to each other and ultimately launching their podcast.
Words: Geraldine Amoko
Photography: Zhann Solomons
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